[sylware]

A good test is to try to port significant from c++ to plain and simple C using "AI". Maybe it can retain some of the semantics for the original code.

There is a more brutal option: AI could help write a c++ to plain and simple C transpiler... then we would lose the semantics of the original program, but free ourself from the very few toxic and real-life c++ compilers out there.

[win311fwg]

> but free ourself from the very few toxic and real-life c++ compilers out there.

Funny because the canonical C++ compiler for the first decade of the language's life did compile to C. People eventually moved on to other compilers to free themselves from having to deal with the toxicity of C output.

What's old is new again.

[sylware]

You are an odd one: we all know that c++ syntax complexity is beyond salvation : it has reach such an absurd and grotesque level, we are in mental pathology realm: Rube Goldberg Machine accute syndrome. And it is not even a matter of argumentation, unless being of accutely bad faith.

It seems you are failing to see that this is this very syntax complexity which makes most of this toxicity.

And having a modern c++ transplier to plain and simple C, would re-open the door to alternative and 'real-life' small/medium compilers, not like those vendor/developer-locked very few options we have today.

Somebody did it for microsoft rust. Would just be a good idea for nowadays c++.

[derekbsnider]

I'm actually working on one... well, it's a lot more than a C++ to C transpiler, but it's just one of the features it contains. It's actually a C/C++ derived language which currently aims to fully support C23 and C++17 in addition to its own extensions which bring in features from other languages like PHP, Rust, Python, Perl, Ruby, JS, etc, as well as auto-including headers, and auto-resolving namespaces. It can JIT execute and also generate executables, as well as emit standard C code you can compile with GCC or CLANG.

https://github.com/derekbsnider/madc

[win311fwg]

> You are an odd one

Well, we are talking about programming languages after all. That goes without saying. One has to be odd to want to do that. But we wouldn’t have it any other way!

[Chu4eeno]

> A good test is to try to port significant from c++ to plain and simple C using "AI". Maybe it can retain some of the semantics for the original code.

So updating cfront for modern C++.

[potus_kushner]

it's already happening: https://github.com/rolandpj1968/sea-front

[sylware]

Sanity and common sense are starting to fight back?