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by rcMgD2BwE72F 15 days ago
Yes, I find it much easier to set up and use than any other Android phone. There’s less bloatware, and battery life is noticeably better.

Two tips for beginners:

Google Play Store and Google Play Services can be installed from the App Store. They aren’t included by default because GrapheneOS works fine without them.

If a trusted app has trouble running, try enabling Exploit protection compatibility mode on the app’s Info screen (long-press the app icon → Info → Exploit protection).

Check whether your bank is supported: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compa.... If it isn’t, it likely depends on the Play Integrity API, which means it requires customers to stay under constant surveillance by the world’s largest advertising company, with no real security justification (see https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-gu...). In that case, you should switch to a more trustworthy bank.

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People in IT vastly overestimate what others understand:

> Google Play Store and Google Play Services can be installed from the App Store.

Few will manage this on their own. What is Play Store? And what are Play Services? What does 'services' mean? Do I need both? Can I just use one or the other? When would I use them?

> They aren’t included by default because GrapheneOS works fine without them.

It doesn't, from what I understand. For normal users, 'works fine' means they can download and install any app.

> If a trusted app has trouble running, try enabling Exploit protection compatibility mode on the app’s Info screen (long-press the app icon → Info → Exploit protection).

lol - 'exploit'? 'mode'? 'app’s Info screen'? Even 'long-press' is not usuable by many, especially older people and others with less manual dexterity than 20-something software designers.

> you should switch to a more trustworthy bank

That isn't a serious solution. I love GrapheneOS, but it isn't ready for typical end-users.