[verdverm]

Should we not get to work less if Ai is increasing productivity so much while also making us exhausted more quickly?

Perhaps on the way to UBI and the end of labor, we could get a 32 and 24h work wweek with lots more vacation, my hope at least

[bluefirebrand]

Instead of getting 25 hour weeks, half of us will be unemployed permanently and the other half will be working 50 hour weeks.

It's a really smart future that the wealthy business owners and investors are building for us.

[JackSlateur]

[..] that the wealthy business owners and investors and all the AI users are building for us.

[BugsJustFindMe]

Name one time in all of history when increased productivity translated to workers working less. I'll wait.

[verdverm]

We used to have people, including children, working up to 80 hours a week. We now have laws that limit those things. One does not have to create a direct causal relationship. One should more likely expect them to be separate because of the adversarial aspects between labor-capital.

https://www.aeaweb.org/research/workweek-restrictions-great-...

[bluefirebrand]

Every single worker that has been laid off due to "increased AI productivity" is working less

As a broad historical trend? Maybe not

But fewer people working, right now? Absolutely

[BugsJustFindMe]

> Every single worker that has been laid off due to "increased AI productivity" is working less

This isn't a useful definition of working less in the thread context and is not the kind of working less that I meant.

If it helps, imagine that I had asked for "when increased productivity translated to workers personally reaping the benefits of the increased productivity by being able to thrive while doing less instead of either being laid off or just being expected to do more".

[bluefirebrand]

Yeah. Sorry. This is just a personal gripe of mine. It rubs me the wrong way when people use "work less" as a shorthand for "workers getting a benefit"