[boca_honey]

I don't have a problem with AI and can't stand the anti-AI brigade, but... this is the worst thing I have ever seen in my life.

This specific type of garbage is exactly what arms the anti-AI critics with valid arguments. We should really wait a few years for the technology to mature before releasing these kinds of projects into the cultural sphere.

[sneak]

The article is not about video quality.

[fallinditch]

My first thought was "we'll be seeing a lot more of this sort of thing, we're so fucked" but then found myself being quite amused by the AI-glitching mistakes in the GPT 5.6 $25 effort: lean into the strange glitching and I won't be too upset.

[d--b]

Not everything is a war between those in favor and those against…

[Lerc]

If you benchmark is to be better than a human familiar with the task at hand, then you will be disappointed.

If you are not expecting them to be as good as people then their failures seem wholly unremarkable. The specific nature of tbe failures can be quite interesting in fact. They can expose deficiencies in the architecrure, training data, or presumptiona of those controlling the models.

In my experience very few people are claiming the capabulities that would be required for me to expect them to produce better than they currenrly are.

I'm not bothered by a fish's inability to quote Shakespeare.

[runarberg]

> I'm not bothered by a fish's inability to quote Shakespeare.

But I am bothered when they put a pencil in the mouth of a fish and tell us that this is the future of literature, that this qualifies as playwright, and that theaters will soon begin putting on plays written by a fish with a pencil in its mouth.

[jackb4040]

"Fish are going to make your job, and most jobs, obsolete within the year" I say for the fourth year in a row. I'm pretending to talk to workers, but am actually indirectly addressing my fish investors trying to scare them into thinking fish are too world-changing of an opportunity to pass up.

Every talk show then has to have me on. It would be one thing if I was boasting about the fish, but scared of it? Well then surely there must be something important going on there. I begin:

"Don't worry. Be happy"

[Lerc]

But they are not claiming that current models are better than humans but later developments might.

Do you think that a descendant of a fish could be a playwright or put on a play?

[TehCorwiz]

Objectively no. Fish form animals have been around far longer than mammals and we've touched the moon.

[Lerc]

Well I would expect them to have been around for longer if they were to be ancestors of mammals.

[runarberg]

Taking your logic to its conclusion fishes (or descendants of fish) regularly recite Shakespeare.

However there is a major flaw in your logic. Fishes (or their descendants) reciting Shakespeare is part of natural history. AI making quality music videos is just a prediction (or maybe even just wishful thinking). The former has occurred and has been observed, the later has not. So you are comparing nature with science fiction.

[bjourne]

Eh, I'd like to see YOU make a better music video for $100 or less!

[runarberg]

This is such a bad argument:

a) You are allowed to dislike cheap stuff, in fact it is common in western culture to dislike art where it is obvious that the artist cheaped out.

b) Never in the history of western art critique has there been a requirement that the critic is able to do better then the artist (let alone for cheaper). As the saying goes, “I may not be able to pilot a 100000 ton cargo ship, but I can tell when one is stuck in a canal.”

[jayd16]

I remember when my friends in middle school were making DBZ fight scene music videos with iMovie and Movie Maker. They were way better than this and did not cost $100.

[bjourne]

I'm not claiming that no one can make a better music video for $100. I'm claiming that a random member of the HN peanut gallery can't make a better music video for $100. :)

[slopinthebag]

If you don’t count the cost of the phone I think many people could. See, it would look like it cost $100, but that’s still better than using AI to generate something that looks like the temu version of a $500,000 video.

[spaqin]

I have done a few - even if very amateurish, still learning, on the side, for saxophone covers. Budget was basically just transportation to the location. I don't count the price of my equipment in the budget because I'm also not counting the price of a datacenter here.

[Turneyboy]

You are also discounting your time which is not fair

[ArlenBales]

Been done many times before. E.g. https://youtu.be/lLYD_-A_X5E?is=DqNgAGlosIXO9z3V

[byzantinegene]

or i can just not do it? this absolute garbage of a music video is not worth a single cent, let alone a $100.

[stale2002]

What do you mean, I thought it was fun.

Feel free to not make your own music videos, but I am not sure why you would be so upset about other people having fun.

[scarecrowbob]

People say this a lot, and I usually think it's said by folks who haven't thought about it much.

As a person who makes a lot of music, I don't care if folks have fun. In fact I am having such a hard time caring hat folks do or how they do it I can't get motivated to book any shows this season.

But the part you're missing is when folks make these things and then say "yeah, you see this thing we're doing? That's what we think -you- are doing." LIke when someone sets up an LLM to shit out some song lyrics, I don't care if they are having fun doing it, but I think it displays a lot of contempt for [insert an songwriting artist youlike here] to claim that the LLM is doing the same thing.

Which is fine and all- I've got plenty of unmitigated contempt for my fellow humans.

And you don't even need a computer to do that- I've released a certain amount of music that is facile and boring and in retrospect understand why folks were dismissive.

But if you want to understand why folks who consider themselves invested in their craft (or even invested in other artists' craft) are dismissive of these things, then you might consider how radically dismissive of craft these kinds of cultural products might seem to artists.

[bjourne]

"or i can just not do it", because you can't! To much pride to admit that the bot beats your ass every day of the week ten times over when it comes to making music videos so the cop out is "nah, man, I just don't wanna."

[tonyhart7]

I don't think its that bad, you are just hater