[vidarh]

Granted I've only used it for a few hours, but to me K3 still appears below Sonnet, even below 4.5.

I have their highest subscription, so it's not that I can't find uses for it and it has sides to it I really like, and it performs really well in some situations, but 2.7 also gets totally lost on tasks Sonnet and Opus has no problems with, and it looks like that is still the case with K3.

That said, I'm doing things with these models that are a lot more complex than the average app people will throw these models at, so I'm sure there are lots of use cases where it will perform better than what I'm seeing.

[p1necone]

I don't know about Kimi, but in my experience other providers like z.ai and minimax don't serve the same models via their subscription plans as they do with api pricing.

They're clearly quantised - spelling mistakes, wonky thinking section dividers, missing whitespace are the immediately obvious tells but along with that comes degraded quality, and it seems to vary based on time of day.

I wouldn't be surprised if Kimi did similar things with their subscription plans - try using it through openrouter and see if you notice different behaviour.