[echelon]

Open Source >>> Closed Source [1]

I don't want to cheer against my country, but we've given up on open source. The way Anthropic and OpenAI treat their customers as adversaries is embarrassing.

I will cheer for China, for Kimi, and for z.ai until we have something in the same category.

[1] I'd even be fine with open weights, fair source, or anything that let us have direct access to the weights. Even if that came with stipulations. Don't hide the weights from us.

[GodelNumbering]

I am with you in the spirit of openweights but I am trying to hard-avoid bringing countries into this. The narrative of US vs China only benefits those who want regulatory capture in the US since attacking China is politically much easier than attacking open-weights, so certain groups like to repeatedly call them 'Chinese models'.

[titanomachy]

I call them “Chinese models” without vitriol. I think they’re great. Although it’s good to remember that all models have ideological biases inherited from their creators.

[echelon]

It's much more a rallying cry for open weights funding than it is for regulatory capture.

The argument on our side wins - if America or the West don't do open source, China will. And that means -- with certainty -- that China wins the market.

Every politician and VC should hear that loud and clear.

[dominotw]

I just want to see dario cry for some reason . i cannot explain it but i want him in particular to lose.