[computerex]

I know GLM is relatively expensive and so is Kimi, in comparison to those DeepSeek V4 pro and flash are a godsend and are absolutely good value.

[arizen]

And DeepSeek V4 Flash + GLM 5.2 is a really good blend of both (fast/cheap DS + more intelligent GLM)

[versteegen]

I think MiMo 2.5 seems to be better than DS4 Flash, at the same price. DS4F can write pretty advanced code but it way overthinks the simple stuff, its CoT is full of errors (immediately corrects itself), and yesterday I was shocked it reliably struggled to spot a misplaced % in a format string when reading a whole file.

[calgoo]

Exactly, I design in glm 5.2, and then build with deepseek pro. I pay deepseek by token count, and honestly I added $20 and it just keeps going, hardly burning anything.

[pimeys]

I use V4 flash as my personal agent. It categorizes documents, organizes my calendar, searches information etc. for pennies. Amazing model.

Not very good for programming though.