[tclancy]

I mean, sure, but at some point with 3 or 4 thousand cds crated up, it became a lot easier to steal than go crate digging in my own basement. And then when what.cd happened and you could literally grab a torrent of perfectly curated files of an artist’s whole catalog, the laziness really spiked.

[pluralmonad]

Brother, arranging 0s and 1s a particular way on storage you own is not theft in any context.

[ux266478]

Unfortunately, that kind of hyper-atomism isn't really an effective argument if you don't already agree with the premise being presented. To make matters worse, the law is a collection of postulates. It can give itself the predetermination of any high-level conclusion it wants, and no amount of reasoning or appeal to lower principles will ever matter.

In otherwords, it's theft if the law says it is. Simple as that.

[pluralmonad]

Only if you operate under the misguided assumption that the law cannot be wrong. I care less for legalese than morals. Its plainly not theft, regardless of the hand wringing of bureaucrats and gatekeepers.

[ux266478]

What? The context of the conversation was about piracy which is a distinct legal fiction, it's inherently grounded in the law's opinion, so yes necessarily the law cannot be wrong in this context, that's incoherent. An idiosyncratic disagreement with the law isn't saying anything relevant to the discussion.

[pluralmonad]

In that context it is still not theft. The term is copyright infringement, a distinct fiction and categorically not theft.

[marysol5]

So you're happy with private documents like banking records, credit numbers, nudey photos being available. It's just "ones and zeros" after all?

[tclancy]

Preach!