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by no-name-here 13 days ago
>> It's a good goal to have, and to continue working towards. At the same time, we shouldn't let that goal cause massive numbers of unnecessary deaths because we're avoiding the thing that can save lives along the way.

> My argument is that political capital and time should be invested in changing people mind about the fundamental approach to land use and transportation.

Do you think your approach is as likely to be successful? If so, how long do you think it will take until it's achieved? How many hundreds of thousands, millions, etc. of unnecessary deaths do you think will occur until you think your approach is likely to succeed?

And again, my comments say to continue working towards your goal too, but just not let that delay solutions that can save massive numbers of lives until (/if)? they are successful.

> The idea that public capital investment is bad and private investment is a universal good that can never be questioned is just not how I think about it.

Is there someone here making that argument, or is that more of a strawman?

Regardless, the point in my parent comment about private spending on something vs taxpayer spending on something is that people generally have less of an issue if a company spends X money to achieve Y goal, that they may or may not agree with, but less tolerance when being forced to spend X of "their own" money via taxes on it.

> I just care less about who provides capital compared to what the outcomes are.

I would recommend to not "care less" about who provides the money (private funding vs taxpayer funding), but to actually care a very large amount about it, as it is one of the most important factors that can determine whether something happens or not.

> the US is generally not very efficient

What measures are you using to quantify US efficiency vs other countries? I guess things like healthcare and public education could be examples? But I'm not sure if those 2 examples are enough to conclude "the US is generally not very efficient".

> Car dependency cause tons of problems and cost on society and is worst for the poorest.

Agreed.