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by witx 13 days ago
It's sad to see a forum called _Hacker_ News try to argue so much against the reality that LLMs are having a tremendous negative impact on society, environment and economy, and being on the side of corporations.

Corporations which stole the work from many open source developers that worked for free, torrented books and actively move against open source ideals. Corporations which are pushing for data centers regardless of the cost to environment and populations. Corporations that have been pushing the idea of "ending X,Y and Z jobs" with a smile on their faces. And all for what? The illusion of faster and safer software? When the bubble bursts, and it will, you really think these corporations will be the ones taking the fall and putting up with the costs? The toll will be on us and our savings

I say corporations because I'm done just blamimg CEOs and executives for this, if you work there you're to blame as well.
2 comments
zahlman 12 days ago
> try to argue so much against the reality that LLMs are having a tremendous negative impact on society, environment and economy, and being on the side of corporations.

This is not the actual argument being made, or the side being taken. (See for example https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48930934, almost directly below as I read this. Or for more detail, try https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48930791 .)

And we get popular anti-LLM submissions here constantly. (And other kinds of anti-corporatist submissions, too.)

But TFA is not any kind of insightful analysis, it's just ideological muck-raking.

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dzhiurgis 13 days ago
> Corporations which stole the work from many open source developers

Wasn't that the entire point of open source tho?

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witx 13 days ago
What, no? The point of open source was to help other developers and communities. Not allow corporations to slurp them on a huge scale and sell you a subscription. Corporations always took advantage of open source but never at this scale.

A couple of years ago I used to work for a pretty soulless company and even them were very very adamant of filling all the forms and software BOMs, and respecting licenses when using open source projects. Now it's just slurp away

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dzhiurgis 13 days ago
Don't buy a subscription baby, get an open weight model and go about your day.

Your complaint is equivalent to Amazon selling hosted postgresql...

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witx 12 days ago
> and go about your day.

That's the attitude that got us here. Just shrug along

> Your complaint is equivalent to Amazon selling hosted postgresql...

It's not. It's the equivalent of them copying the code, making small changes and calling it something else that they for sure developed in house, just believe

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