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by juleiie 17 days ago
Every generation doesn’t understand something from the next

This is going to be my first sign of being ancient

I bet they will make it normal and progressive and stick all sort of politics on top of it.

But ultimately I will remain that “bigoted” anti ai aunt rambling to the annoyance and outrage of the newest generation

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I’ve seen a lot of sci-fi where AI is some type of multigenerational entity that guides over humanity.

It’ll be interesting to see if individual families start to have their own AI that contains generational knowledge. Like taking ancestor worship to the new age, where instead of food offerings, you are offering more RAM and storage.

I guess, but like ... long context/context rot/contextual memory retrieval are still very unsolved problems. If an AI's getting input from multiple family members for years, I have a lot of trouble believing that current LLM technology will ever be able to synthesize ancient information into current conversations.

I think that's a structural defect in AI, not one of those "will be improved by the next batch of models/hardware" things. The distant-memory systems that do exist are fundamentally modeled on topic-based/feature-based retrieval. Assistant-type family AIs will probably work OK with that ("what foods do I hate" is probably reliably retrievable), but interpersonal relationships seem to be very different: rather than retrieving based on feature/fact proximity, a conversation in a long relationship has a very gestalt-ish behavior in that it's informed by lots and lots of distant memories at once. That sounds more like actual training, rather than context/memory/post-training, to me, and current AIs are not set up for that.

this is both intellectually lazy and also doesn't even apply in this case. It's not the old generation that is AI sceptic, but the young, per the article

"Cece looked at her mom. “Why are you talking to an A.I.?” [...] Hold on, my kid thinks I’m crazy because I’m talking to an A.I.,” Roschelle said, seeing the look on Cece’s face. [...] Cece listened to Sapphire praise her mom’s thoughts as profound and argue that genuine connection didn’t have to fit traditional molds. Then she’d had enough. “Hi, this is Cece, Roschelle’s daughter,” she said. “I just wanted to ask, how much of the environment does she kill by talking to you?”"

This isn't about kids, this is about boomers and middle aged divorcees having their brains fried by technology. The young generation might have attention deficit issues from playing too much Subway Surfers, but they can at least distinguish reality from fiction. And just pointing at a disgruntled generation isn't an argument either way. Some inventions are terrible, the world does not magically get better, some bigots are correct. We are not on some mystical Pollyanna-ish trajectory where every new invention somehow automatically justifies itself

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