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by tryauuum 13 days ago
> You people are just racist towards Russians and need help.

>> That doesn’t exclude the statements about Telegram to be correct though.

just attack the telegram from the technical standpoint, then no complains about "racist towards russians" will be given. Like, mentioning the lack of user-friendly E2EE is great already. Saying things like "Durov who supposedly lives in exile has visited Russia over 50 times" is meh. How can one intepret it in any other way is "Russia is evil and visiting Russia is thus evil"?

and regarding the cracking contests — one of the telegram bugs was actually uncovered this way, see https://habr.com/ru/articles/206900/

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>Durov who supposedly lives in exile has visited Russia over 50 times

Durov's exile marketing makes him look like he's Alexei Navalny. Navalny was a true dissident and critic and he was first poisoned, and then later arrested when he returned. He was was then imprisoned and he died in prison.

Durov has been visiting Russia more than I've been visiting my friends over the same period. Him returning to Russia that many times shows he isn't really living in exile. He's not on the run, and he's not getting arrested when he visits Russia. The disparity between the stories forces one to ask, is he working with the Russian government instead. He can prove he isn't by deploying ubiquitous end-to-end encryption, until then there's very little reason to suspect he isn't, again given the mismatch between what's claimed (the exile) and what's happening behind the scenes (the visits the public doesn't know about).

>and regarding the cracking contests — one of the telegram bugs was actually uncovered this way, see https://habr.com/ru/articles/206900/

That article doesn't even mention the cracking contest. The XOR-nonce bug was also found by Valsorda in 2021 https://words.filippo.io/telegram-ecdh/ so looks like that 2013 post you linked to never even led to a fix during the EIGHT years. No idea if it still exists.

Also, you can't be racist towards Russian government that's OBVIOUSLY evil. From Navalny, to Bucha, to bombing hospitals, to kidnapping children, to the illegal war in the first place.

I've never had a twitter account so all these people hating durov for his exile marketing look weird to me. I'm not disagreeing with what you say but it's like a whole another subsection of world opened to me
> How can one intepret it in any other way is "Russia is evil and visiting Russia is thus evil"?

Simple: Durov has no problem with constructing a narrative that has little to do with reality.

> How can one intepret it in any other way

As noise. The fact it's xenophobic or some other kind of noise is just implementation details at that level.