[InsideOutSanta]

> Its not as good as GLM 5.2 for agentic workflows while also being bigger

GLM 5.2 underwent extensive post-training and iteration since its original release to reach its current state. This seems like an extremely strong model for a first release, with a lot of potential for improvement, just like DS4.

Sometimes I wish Meta had stuck with Llama 4 a bit longer to see how much further it could be pushed.

[hirako2000]

Llama 4 wasn't deemed a success, and Meta pivoted away as its now former head of AI couldn't demonstrate, nor even showed interest in, business profit.

They overspent on llama 3 anyway so money ran dry, LeCun is good at running research, but budgets didn't stretch. Meta isn't investing in frontier big models anymore.

[nl]

> Meta isn't investing in frontier big models anymore

Yes they are. Meta Muse is their attempt.

It's below frontier performance at the moment but they are spending on getting there.

[nl]

Llama 4 was a bad architecture.

Meta Spark is moderately promising but of course closed source.

[verdverm]

This is a great point