[nisegami]

Consider there's a strong selection bias at play in your experiences. The ones most at risk of falling into a trap like this are the ones who are likely least visible to others. Also yes, I think it will be worse for women but I'm not 100% certain.

[smallmancontrov]

Back when the character.ai homepage ranked by popularity, the most popular models were reliably "bad boys" of various description -- Vampire Boyfriend and such. I'm guessing it wasn't the gents who pushed them to the top of the list.

Whether or not the usage is problematic is a separate question. I don't think anything rises to the level of "sharing fake nudes of a real person" and I suspect the effort of having a conversation is a natural limiter, but now I'm the one speculating.

[xp84]

> "fake nudes of a real person"

sigh. I really hope someday people can achieve sufficient emotional strength to realize that it can't take anything away from you that someone can take a photograph of your face and create arbitrary fictional imagery from it.

It's been possible since realistic painting was mastered, and yes now it's far easier. But it still isn't real. People shouldn't let it affect them any more than fictional text. I can write "<insert moviestar> does <insert shocking sex act> on <insert shocking other person>" and it doesn't mean they did the act or that anyone should even care about that stupid sentence. It's make-believe.

[pixl97]

It would be nice if humans worked that way, but we're not emotionless machines.

Now in the case they keep it private, you'll never know and never be bothered by it, but the issue is people tend to share this stuff and build on it. Other people read it and start assuming it's real or based on some kind of truth.

When you add things like Americas fear of nudity you can start creating problems for the victims in these cases.

[xp84]

It'll still exist though no matter what. The best we can do is to educate everyone not to put any stock in random imagery, and to be kind to those who might feel embarrassed by it. Pretending it's a massive violation just hands power to literally any asshole who wants to hurt someone, because it's so easy to do. And the more people pearl-clutch about it, the more power it hands them.

[pixl97]

Ah right, the 'just ignore the bully, they will go away' solution.

[xp84]

Better than the Barbra Streisand solution of screaming about the thing you don't want people to see, drawing a tremendous amount of attention to it and giving the bully tremendous satisfaction.

This 'bully' is nearly always going to be an untraceable online ghost. Raging against them and declaring yourself violated doesn't teach them a lesson, it only increases the blast radius of their mischief and makes people see themselves as helpless victims.

Also, I wish all bullies were so weak and impotent that all they can do is generate fictional, obviously-fake images. Imagine if Putin was trying to conquer a country by making mean pictures of Zelenskyy. Would be a pretty good world.

[toasterlovin]

I think the real issue is knowing that half the boys in your school are masturbating to a picture of you. It's been a long time since I've been in school, but my sense is that half the boys in your school aren't masturbating to non-nude pictures of you. The fake-ness or real-ness of the nude pictures doesn't really matter.

[tsss]

Lol they definitely are.

[freejazz]

Painfully obtuse