[latchkey]

i can think of 1000 reasons to need to call for help. heck, two months ago i fell on my skateboard and shattered my femur at the hip. it sure was nice to be able to call 911 and have someone come pick me up given that i couldn't drive anywhere. my van was parked right at the skatepark and there was no way i was going to drive. obviously not skating in a national park, but it isn't out of the question to not have a major injury in a remote location.

but it isn't just about harm, as i said "convenience". i like being able to download detailed maps for trail hiking on-demand, and being off-grid and still able to be working (as my job requires me to be online).

[traceroute66]

> obviously not skating in a national park, but it isn't out of the question to not have a major injury in a remote location.

It isn't out of the question to have a major injury in a remote location.

But the fundamental problem would be being on your own in a remote location, not being unable to call 911.

Yes in your skating example, you "only" fell and shattered your femur.

But what if you fell and hit your head or landed and hit your spine ?

Or what if you had a heart attack ?

You would not be in a position to call 911 then, would you.

Being on your own in a remote location is not a risk problem that you can solve with any amount of technology.

[latchkey]

> You would not be in a position to call 911 then, would you.

I never said anything about being alone.

[traceroute66]

> I never said anything about being alone.

I would humbly suggest that you are moving the goalposts.

It was implied in your what-if post, i.e. "I fractured my femur in the skate park, but what if I was in a remote location".

You can also get cheap satellite dumb-phones with pay-as-you-go SIM cards. No need to be tied to a Starlink sub if your primary concern is about being able to summon help in an emergency in a remote location. All you need is your location and you can get that from any satellite dumb-phone.

Also with multiple humans there are other options. Unless you are somewhere truly remote, a casual walk a few minutes back down the trail will likely find you some other humans who can assist and summon help.

Stating the obvious but also in a remote location, 911 will not turn up instantly, so people in the group should have suitable training for remote first aid and be prepared to give it for an extended period whilst waiting for 911.

[latchkey]

Now you're just nitpicking to try to prove some point about calling 911?

[runarberg]

If American infrastructure is in such a bad shape that it requires starlink to make emergency calls, then I think we have bigger problems.

And please, when you go hiking, download and print all the maps you need before you depart, and share a detailed plan with somebody able to call help, including a time estimate where you will make contact.

As for work. Please just take time off and take a proper vacation. By being constantly on call you will burn out at a much faster rate.

[latchkey]

> download and print all the maps you need before you depart

If I'm living and traveling in my campervan for months on end, which is something I love to do, having starlink enables me to not have to plan. I can download the maps, hop out of my van and go. That's my own ideal freedom, I'm not tied to planning the same way you are.

> Please just take time off and take a proper vacation. By being constantly on call you will burn out at a much faster rate.

Wow, thanks for the advice. It is wild to me that you've got enough of an ego to say this to someone you don't know.