[iamshs]

Guy was doing Nazi salutes at Trump's inauguration. If he wanted support from normal people, he should have remained within normal political norms, not do Nazi salutes. I don't think it is normal to expect sympathy after that, people will be revolted and would want him to fail. They should not be judged for this opinion, it's pretty vanilla. Normal people still carry conscience, an innate justice system. Otherwise we won't even have justice system if we start giving people an out based on fame, talent etc.

[rightbyte]

If anything people are severly downplaying him being an unstable alt-nazi edgelord or whatever he self identifies as. As his fan club gets smaller it gets more fanatic, too. A lot of Twitter AI on Mars fan fic.

[qwerpy]

The fact that people like you are still pushing the subjective salute thing as incontrovertible fact makes it hard to find any common ground. Serious people in the media, even the ones heavily biased against Elon, don’t harp on it the way online people do.

[GuinansEyebrows]

i do not want to find common ground with people who do nazi salutes or those who excuse them. i want consequences these people because they wish harm upon me or excuse those who wish harm upon me. there is no "center" with this subject; there never has been, because nazi behavior forces the binary.

[rightbyte]

Subjective? This is gas lighting. He put on his angry face, lips together and all. It was no subjective or ironic John Cleese nazi salute. It was a nazi salute. Then he went on to starve kids on medecine to death. I mean. Like. Really? Is this still in dispute?

[timmytokyo]

It's not like the salute is a singular event. Just look at him on X. Most of what he talks about today is his support for racist political movements (like Reform UK and AfD). That's when he's not tweaking grok to insert "white genocide" into responses for recipe requests.

There's a pattern here. The man's brain was utterly broken by the social media platform he bought, and he's an overt fascist at this point.

[qwerpy]

What you said is a more substantive argument than the lazy “Nazi salute, end of story” that somehow doesn’t get shot down enough here.