[srean]

> That is not what's going on here though

When the government is absent in its role people/communities do self-organize. As long as local defacto controllers do not resort to things like honor killing, honor rapes like they do in the Haryana belt I am very much for local and distributed control and empowerment.

Regarding stringent anti-littering laws, enforcement has proven nigh impossible exactly where it's required the most. The only discernible difference would be more corruption funded pocket money for the local police. I would be so happy to be proven wrong.

Even with effective anti-littering in place, many places would still need to control the volume of footfalls.

Really saddened by the filth in around Kedarnath. It used to be so pristine before.