[Dylan16807]

> There’s some good stuff on there, just not in the “Shorts” tab.

Why do people get so weird about the shorts tab? There are perfectly good videos in there, they're just tilted weird. You can fit quality content into 3 minutes.

And remember Elsagate? That was entirely landscape videos.

[jhbadger]

Exactly. Drew Talbot's brilliant "Bistro Huddy" (which anyone who has ever worked in a restaurant whether as a server or in the kitchen can relate to) is done as Youtube shorts because that makes sense for comedy sketches. What exactly is wrong with a short vertical video? Just that it reminds people of Tiktok?

[quickthrowman]

You can post short regular YouTube videos, I have dozens of favorites that are under 30 seconds long, some are only a few seconds long. The YouTube algorithm didn’t always punish short videos.

The method of ingestion for short form video content is what I dislike, it encourages endless consumption. Each video is immediately followed by another video. It’s very hard to critically consume that style of content when you don’t have time to think about what you’re watching or just watched once another video starts playing. I believe this leads to uncritically believing whatever you’re watching.

The format itself incentivizes sensationalism and puffery, I feel like I’m ingesting questionable information every time I’ve watched short form videos. That’s the main reason I reject short form video content outright, it just feels .. ‘wrong’ somehow.

[Dylan16807]

> You can post short regular YouTube videos

Yeah but I don't control the people posting.

> you don’t have time to think about what you’re watching or just watched once another video starts playing

Mine doesn't go to a new video until I tell it to, which is the same for shorts and non-shorts.

[inigyou]

Because the incentives are very different which leads to different content being available.

Notice how Shorts recently removed the dislike button?

[aethertron]

There are good Shorts. One problem is a flick of the thumb scrolls you down to the next, then the next, and many are crap. The uncertainty about whether you're going to see crap or gold is part of what makes recommendation-based infinite scrolling addictive.

[kakacik]

Never done that, muscle memory is simply not there. But then again i dont watch youtube on phone, computer with ublock origin is vastly superior experience.

There is whole world to read and discover before switching to passive videos. Or even spend time here lol

[Dylan16807]

And that uncertainty doesn't apply to watching normal videos? I dunno, if shorts gets unreliable because it ran out of the channels I regularly visit then I just leave.

[inigyou]

It doesn't because in the normal video interface you select what to watch next.