[quickthrowman]

> ROI on bank loans to Oracle and corporate bonds. Those will have interest rates and returns.

Those are intrinsically linked to ORCL equity. ORCL needs an ROI to service their debt.

[s1artibartfast]

what point are you making? I was clairifying what ROI the parent was discussing.

There are different ROIs which are not the same, even if related.