[fsflover]

> You already can't do any of these things without some kind of governmental issued ID which already has your birthdate on it.

Do you have to present this ID for every purchase you make or every website you visit? Will it be stored and processed by every shop you enter? If not, how is this relevant here? Currently, the personal data exists but is not accessed by anyone unless it is really required. And even then, the scope can be minimized if the user wants.

> do you really believe they don't know what you do on your personal internet connection linked to your name and payment data ?

Yes. I use Whonix on Qubes to access HN and other websites.

> but for the average HN shitposter who's already terminally online it really doesn't change much

Speak for yourself.

[toasty228]

> Do you have to present this ID for every purchase you make or every website you visit?

Basically yes, your mobile connection is attached to a name, your landline is attached to a name, your adresse too, the card you use to pay online too.

[rcbdev]

That is totally incorrect for many parts of Europe. Pre-paid anonymous sim cards were used by the majority of mobile users until very recently.

[fsflover]

Websites do not have access to any of these, do they?

[toasty228]

Well yeah, and that's why we use a third party app instead of having each website implement their own half assed solutions. That's like the entire point of this thing...

[fsflover]

In this thread, we are talking about the current state of affairs, not the age verification app.