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by aynyc 17 days ago
Don't worry, they'll just build the data centers in NJ and still considered NY 1-20.

Sarcasm aside, I don't really know where they would build data centers in NYS. Electricity rate in northern and western NY is going thru the roof. ADK/Catskill have very sensitive environmental laws. Can't really build in lower hudson as real estate cost would be killer.

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The Catskills have those environmental protection laws because they are the water source for NYC. It would be very stupid to relax those to build data centers.
NYC owns those lands for water. ADK has forever wild in NYS constitution. They are not gonna get relax for data center because they discharge water and noise and add significant infrastructure change.

Solar farm on the other hand might go up tho.

Replacing natural lands with solar farms is one of the stupidest things I've seen. They're doing that on some state parks near me.
Why are people disagreeing? I find it wild that people actually condone putting a solar farm on a state park. That land is supposed to be mostly natural and for public use. If the park wants to power itself using solar, then put it on the roofs and cover the parking areas with panels. Don't contract out a forest/field to be developed as a solar farm.

Maybe I'm jaded, but it seems like city people want to exploit the natural lands to produce their electricity. True NIMBY. It's hard to claim to care about the environment when being willing to destroy it when alternatives exist.

What would be unnatural lands that you'd find acceptable for use?
Existing infrastructure, such as roofs and parking lots.
Yeah why do I have to pay to get it in my roof when a solar company will buy land to put up solar cells. Just put it on my roof instead. I won't complain.
>Replacing natural lands with solar farms is one of the stupidest things I've seen

"Says here[1] on this study published by university lab funded by a consortium of the same interests that develop the solar that this is fine"

-smarmy HN linkposters

[1] <link to study that doesn't even support my thesis but you can't tell because it's behind a paywall>

> I don't really know where they would build data centers in NYS

They would build them as close to NYC as possible. Data Centers existed prior to AI boom. HFT, edge hosting, etc.

That's the insider joke. Look up NY1-NY4 data centers, they are all in NJ across the river. NYC just dump their shit into NJ is the usually move. But those areas are full now, and they don't really have anywhere to go but south jersey.
Go too far south and they start being Philadelphia data centers.
The AI ones are a hundred times larger. Formerly you needed a building to house racks where each customer had a few servers, now they want a megacomplex all dedicated to one purpose. Few of these are even getting completed, most are abandoned for cost reasons.