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by rayiner 14 days ago
Discriminating against an individual based on their race is a moral wrong, unlike applying pressure to a pendulum. So your example doesn’t work because it doesn’t raise the disputed moral question.

Our system of morality and justice operates on individuals, not groups. It’s fundamentally mistaken to view the issue in terms of a pendulum that represents group outcomes.
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dahart 14 days ago
> Discriminating against an individual based on their race is a moral wrong

People pick partners based on race. Is that morally wrong?

> Our system of morality and justice operates on individuals, not groups.

What do you mean? Class actions don’t exist? Did I imagine the 19th amendment?

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graemep 14 days ago
> People pick partners based on race. Is that morally wrong?

Depends on their reasoning. If it is that they are attracted to people with a particular physical appearance that correlates with race, then its not morally wrong. If you are doing so because they do not want to pick a partner who they believe is of an inferior race, that is morally wrong.

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dahart 14 days ago
Exactly. It depends. It’s not a given.
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rayiner 14 days ago
> people pick partners based on race. Is that morally wrong?

Wrong, but not illegal.

> What do you mean? Class actions don’t exist?

You can’t have class actions based on pre-existing groups (say, “Italians”). You have to define the group in a way that provides a high level of certainty that all class members were subject to the harm that’s the basis for the suit.

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dahart 14 days ago
> Wrong, but not illegal.

Why is racial preference in partner wrong?? Who agrees with this anywhere?

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rayiner 14 days ago
Maybe I’m out of touch, but 20 years ago expressing a racial preference for dating would’ve gotten you labeled a racist. Is this some new Gen Z thing?
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dahart 14 days ago
Saying you have a preference is creepy. Having one and making decisions based on that is absolutely normal and always has been, and is not immoral, contrary to your claim. The vast majority of marriages globally are same race marriages.
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freejazz 14 days ago
>You can’t have class actions based on pre-existing groups (say, “Italians”). You have to define the group in a way that provides a high level of certainty that all class members were subject to the harm that’s the basis for the suit.

Yeah, and?

No response on the 19th amendment?

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