[satvikpendem]

Or what you and others might believe are human rights are not believed by them to be human rights. Human rights are not, in fact, universal, otherwise there would be no disagreement; and either way, no human right is endless and unlimited especially when it impinges on another's rights.

[foxglacier]

Oh god what's wrong with you people? Can nobody just be direct and say "I don't accept the UDHR and I believe this other thing that's incompatible with it"? Or "I believe the meaning of that article of UDHR is this other thing and here's some reasons or examples".

[satvikpendem]

I mean, that's not my position, I'm just explaining what some say when they think the UDHR is somehow actually universal.