[scoofy]

Again, you sound like someone who has never read an ounce of political philosophy. The policing of behavior will exist in any society, whether it is held by the state, the church, private security firms, organized crime, or vigilantes. The entire point of putting the police under the authority of a democratic public is because the alternatives are all much worse.

The policing arm of the executive branch can be difficult to manage, the point is once it leaves the purview of the state, it is impossible to manage.

[ceejayoz]

> The entire point of putting the police under the authority of a democratic public is because the alternatives are all much worse.

Yes, I agree.

I just think we're in that "much worse" scenario now, with police unions, qualified immunity, pardons for brutality, and police punishing attempts to rein them in.

American cops are out of control, and emboldened by their success.