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by RJSquirel 19 days ago
I can't believe they use GoDaddy as a registrar.
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insanity. it almost undercuts everything they do.
Wait until you hear that the chats aren’t end to end encrypted.
wait until you hear why, and that you can optionally use e2e but lose other functionality.
And end-to-end encryption not supported on web client and doesn't sync properly between devices. Useless.
>> doesn't sync properly between devices

which is good, actually. We don't want a way through which a server could tell a new device all the information it needs to decrypt messags

I thought this was a long solved problem: the server syncs encrypted data, and the user provides the decryption key from another device (via QR codes, BLE, …)
Make it device-to-device then
yeah, it is good! I hate usability features too!
i think it makes perfect sense if you understand what telegram is and which country it benefits
Since when did registars care about the political positions of its clients? They could have registered on cloudflare or namecheap and I doubt they'd bat an eye. Telegram is mainstream enough that nobody is going to cancel them, unlike kiwi farms or 4chan.
registrars are bound by the political whims of those that allow them to exist there have been multiple domains that have been shut down at the behest of certain governments even when its well beyond their jurisdiction

kiwi farms and 4chan are relatively harmless compare to what Telegram enables yet kiwi farms was taken offline at the behest of a political camp that has certain opinions about very basic stuffs that shouldn't even be grounds to be considered.

>kiwi farms and 4chan are relatively harmless compare to what Telegram enables yet kiwi farms was taken offline at the behest of a political camp that has certain opinions about very basic stuffs that shouldn't even be grounds to be considered.

For most people, the % of content that's "harmful" matters more than absolute harm numbers. This is a good thing, because otherwise after telegram, the next app to be canceled would be signal.

> kiwi farms and 4chan are relatively harmless compare to what Telegram enables yet kiwi farms was taken offline at the behest of a political camp that has certain opinions about very basic stuffs that shouldn't even be grounds to be considered.

Literally what the fuck is this take? Kiwifarms' central purpose for existing is to organize doxxing and harassment efforts. It has harassed multiple people into committing suicide, and celebrates these murders as achievements. It is shameless to downplay that in the way you're doing.

4chan and Telegram are completely unrelated. They are low-censorship platforms. People can misuse them to commit harm, as they can misuse any place they're allowed to speak with privacy/anonymity, but the platforms do not exist for the explicit purpose to cause harm.

The wrong thing is that instead of going after doxxers, and reducing data collection to prevent leaks, they simply force the sites go to Tor network.

And now Europeans want everyone to send a selfie and a passport to register at sites, which only makes doxxing easier. Clowns.

Also, doxxing is relatively harmless. You won't die just because someone posts your passport online.

News outlets have been reporting on how the Terrorgram, O9A, 764, and murder loving European fascist groups have been organizing on Telegram (it's in the name!) for years.

Discord at least attempts to do some moderation about this.

Telegram's strategy to deal with violent extremist groups on its platform is to not ban them but just make it hard to discover. But this doesn't stop someone already in the groups from inviting their buddies. I bet they actually prefer it this way.

Clue me in? Is GoDaddy particularly censorial as a registrar?
GoDaddy is just a general clusterfuck of arbitrary decisions. I don't have anything ready offhand to point to, but the general consensus is that you should avoid GoDaddy pretty vehemently.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3381822 still holding Godaddy's support for SOPA against them
Their TOS isn't very protective of domains. Tend to disable at the slightest fake email. Namecheap/Spaceship are a little better, IIRC.
Namecheap was recently sold to PE. I had been with them for decades and immediately transferred to Cloudflare. Lessor of evils.
Cloudflare is still a greater evil than Namecheap. Try Porkbun or Dynadot.
I've had really good success with porkbun. Everything seems to work for me.
they're particularly incompetent