[fnordian_slip]

Why does this obvious falsehood get repeated so much on hn Everyone can look up what the CDU did, it's not like they did it in secret.

It's bad enough that nuclear proponents ignore the massive cost of nuclear compared to renewables once you factor in building costs, insurance and storage imho. But then to pretend like the conservatives didn't have a choice but to bungle the nuclear exit really is too much.

The CDU never listened to the greens when it came to not killing the solar industry and serving it to China on a golden platter. Or not killing our rail infrastructure by continually delaying maintenance so that we would have to do much more costly repairs later.

But in this instance, they do, and do it in a way that is a gift to the energy companies, and instead of noticing the obvious corruption at play, people still blame the greens.

[mk89]

Sure, SPD didn't have anything to do with it. Schröder and the Greens didn't have anything to do with it at all.

The Green party itself was literally born out of a protest against nuclear reactors in the 70's (Whyl).

CDU tried to slow down the phase out, but when Fukishima happened Merkel thought about staying in power rather than doing the right thing (= not shutting down the power plants).

I don't care about CDU, which as usual never misses a chance to disappoint, but not saying that the phase out was planned and executed by the Greens (and obviously SPD) is just factually wrong, because they initiated it all and implemented it. It wasn't just a draft, "let's see if it gets amended, etc..".

EDIT: I was talking just purely about energy and such reforms. The last 30 years have been ... to say the least... "weird" and short term.

Disabling a technology is a huge mistake, no matter what. No country did it the way it was done in Germany.

[OKRainbowKid]

Yeah it's crazy, in every post about Germany inevitably the nuclear phase out will get brought up and the comments/discussions always seem like a shit show of misinformation to me. And it's always how nuclear is being phased out in favor of coal and gas and that's why energy is expensive, industry is dying, and the Greens and or EU are to blame for all of it. It's tiring, really, and I have the impression that these posters are not acting in good faith, but posting to reproduce a narrative.

[fnordian_slip]

As we are supposed to strongman other commenters arguments here, I'd say they are not posting to produce a narrative, but rather that they have allowed themselves to believe that they are the "obviously right", and everyone who believes otherwise is driven to do so by ideology instead of logic.

By painting the opposition to nuclear energy as emotionally driven, they can assure themselves that their position is rational, and this allows them to subconsciously ignore the evidence against it.

[OKRainbowKid]

Thank you, and I agree. Your phrasing more accurately reflects what I meant to say.