[Valodim]

It pains me to say, but it's probably too little, too late. Logseq remained a buggy mess, is now on an unmaintained (thus insecure) version of electron.

And now after several years of complete stagnation, the supposed improvement is a database format to fix their technical issues, so I can no longer keep all my data as markdown files? At a time when half the edits are done by Claude and tracked with jujustu, this is just not useful for me.

All I wanted was the original vision, but with less bugs and more quality of life features.

[thefunnyman]

I agree, I truly love logseq as it fits the way my brain works in a way the few other tools seem to be able to replicate. Unfortunately my notes being in plain text is a non-negotiable for me. This will probably be the push I need to transition over fully to org-roam. My logseq files are already stored in org format anyway.

[setopt]

I also went back to Org-mode some years ago (most recently via Howm-mode). I loved what Logseq had to offer, and setup monthly donations for a while, but after the long period of apparent stagnation I lost faith and jumped ship.

It’s sad because Logseq felt like a more focused tool than either Emacs or Obsidian, and really nailed the UI/UX that I wanted. But the interface was slow and buggy, and both the Org and Markdown backends are sufficiently non-standard that I didn’t want to continue writing my notes in that unless I believe Logseq is going to be around for a while. And I’m not at all excited by the large investment in the database backend, given that being backed by plain text is their largest feature from my point of view.

[jauntywundrkind]

I'm somewhat willing to entertain the possibility of using FUSE to access my files again as such (as files), but man, what a downgrade!

It also means the file based syncing I use is not going to work anymore, which... On the other hand... Is maybe right out for me.

[freedomben]

Sadly, these are my thoughts as well. I've got so much already in logseq though, and I really like the model. Right now I'm thinking I'll just stay on version one as long as possible. Not being able to use Claude or codex anymore to write or update pages is a real deal breaker for me.

Does anyone know of a fork a version one that plans to continue?

[j45]

Some people have placed their LogSeq DB inside a Obsidian Vault and .. moved on.

While I like using .md files, I can understand the perspective of needing database level syncing.

I haven't kept up with it, not sure why the existing Logseq didn't quietly start using a database internally, and also output .md files too to have both worlds.

Syncing text files can, does and most often will break given enough complexity and multi-device usage, especially with the most basic use case of using a daily note on multiple locations at the same time.

[wenc]

I still use Logseq and conceptually it’s still a great method for building a second brain. It fits the way my brain works.

But it has been dormant for years and early attempts at syncing didn’t work well. I paid to support the sync effort but we saw nothing for years. That’s a painfully long time.

[AbstractH24]

I love the concept of logseq, but the userbase is just too small and in turn the speed of change is too slow. .

Over the last few weeks, with the help of Claude Code I've finally been able to dive into Obsidian and build out the second brain I've always wanted. With the power to auto-sort small thoughts jotted down on my phone with minimal interruption and some automated maintenance & sorting.

CC has really reduced the friction to getting started with Obsidian that's held me back for years.

[hack1312]

How are you using Obsidian (and the LLM part if you want to expand on that) to build a second brain? I’m using Obsidian but more as a replacement for Apple Notes because it supports Markdown. My vault is just a collection of notes somewhat organized into relevant folders. I know there’s a lot of functionality I’m not utilizing.

[AbstractH24]

At first I was using the plugin Claudian. Now I just opened the folder in Claude Code.

It's not quite done yet, but when it is I think I'll anonymize it and share it on GitHub. In the meantime, here's a pretty screenshot without anything personal: https://snipboard.io/tyRYEJ.jpg https://snipboard.io/mryYKe.jpg

Also used CC to help me build some complex Apple shortcuts to let me capture stuff easily. Either by sharing it or hitting the button on the side of my phone and jotting it down (that Claude didn't do quite as well at, but it got me 75% of the way and helped me learn how to make complex branching shortcuts)

There is one basic function Obsidan lacks - some variation of rollups to link fields in different notes in a structured way. It's where I really did like Logaeq better. I’m going to try using Claude to "reconcile" that stuff on a recurring basis.

To some extent I've probably tried to make Obsidian into Notion. But it's more flexible and free.

[bossyTeacher]

Can you check those links? They don't work

[AbstractH24]

Both worked for me in private mode. Strange.

Did this work: https://limewire.com/d/lxbCj#HqQOJwUfCE

[bossyTeacher]

Now they do, thanks! :)

[mandalivia]

Have you tried dataview for rollups?

[j1elo]

I'm just in the toying and evaluation phase with Obsidian and so far I like it, but I'd like to understand why an AI is needed or even useful to begin with it? So far I just see a powerful text editor, what did you benefit from with AI use?

[AbstractH24]

Short and sweet: it built out the structure, template layout, and tables in dataview.

Could have just done it without it? Certainly, this just helped me build something more scalable than I knew how to on my own, and then I learned from it. And on an ongoing basis it'll help organize the things in daily notes and inbox and place them appropriately.

To put it another way, it helped me get from 0 to 1 and will do some of the routine maintenance required to move things from my second brain's short-term memory to long-term.

[arikrahman]

I became so old waiting for usable non-lazy loading for long form notes that I ended up using Emacs for everything

[j_maffe]

Yeah I felt the same about the decision when they decided to move to database structure. If it had this structure from the start it could've built up an ecosystem like Obsidian's but now it's hard to justify going for it.

[Valodim]

Even if it was something people wanted, and it wasn't clear that it was even before the advent of CC, abandoning the mainline product for years was a terrible move.

Hopefully they at least got something out of it for themselves from that VC money.

[cromka]

I wanted to use Logseq to replace NotePlan's workflow on Linux, but it's nowhere close that. What's worse, I was barely able to setup something remotely close with Obsidian.

[sigmonsays]

i begrudgingly switched from logseq to obsidian.