[araoz]

AFAIK zig is not trying to be "better C++" (that is Rust), zig is more like "better C". a ergonomic low level lang with very little abstractions. zig explicitly doesn't want to be better C++ or rust

[neutronicus]

Oh, I get that.

That’s what I’m saying. I hear “Better C” and my initial reaction is “what’s the point”. Like, why would you aim for “Worse C++”?

I mean, compile times. That’s fair.

[pjmlp]

Even those aren't that bad, when using C++20 modules, coupled with binary libraries.

Granted we "aren't modules" yet, unless being on latest compilers with msbuild/cmake/ninja tooling.

[neutronicus]

Perhaps theoretically, with good practice, but at my job it’s fucking brutal.

But to your larger point I would much rather work on improving that than let it drive me back to C fetishism.