[moomoo11]

i appreciate people saying it like it is.

like linus lol

i hate marketing pr speak when it comes to technical things.

save that for the non technical customers

[ksec]

>like linus lol

I am not even sure if that is an insult.

Linus attack on "things" he dislike and call the person out on it. I don't believe Linus has ever call out on that person's other non related behaviour.

People keep using Linus here as if they are the same. They are not.

[eptcyka]

What is the behaviour that Jarred was called out for that was not related to Bun?

[pcollins123]

Being a bad manager. That’s a very personal attack.

[thereforegrin]

if he actually was, then it's not a personal attack but stating facts about a person - there's a meaningful difference.

A personal attack has no informational value (about the accused), while bringing to light bad qualities of a person does - especially if those qualities are related to the issue at hand, which in this particular situation seems to be the case.

Again, the distinction between a personal attack and proper characterisation of bad qualities rests on actual facts i.e. was it slander or was he really a bad manager?

I don't know but I personally give less probability to the former than the latter.

[eptcyka]

Managing a very public project that advertises Zig and doing so poorly is a matter of fact, is it not?

[ksec]

That was what ZSF try to implies. And would have been much better if it was written as such. But the way it is currently framed is a personal attack.

[nozzlegear]

Didn't Linus famously say that he regretted his behavior, that making things personal was not okay, and that he needed to change some of his behavior?

[anthonypasq]

what exactly is technical about personal attacks?