[Loquebantur]

People in the climate movement are rarely professional PR folks. Weaponizing their personal faults against the objective subject matter they talk about is disingenuous anyway?

You cannot deduce factual correctness from how "holy" the messenger is.

[strken]

Wanting every living human being to die and our species to go extinct ("NTHE" stands for "near-term human extinction") is a little beyond not being professional PR folks.

[simiones]

Per the article, the NTHE "movement" are doom sayers, not doom pushers. That is, the NTHE people are people who predict that humanity and most complex life on Earth will be killed off by global warming by 2030 (used to be 2026), through a somewhat convoluted but unavoidable series of consequences of the polar ice cap melting completely (in their theory). There is no indication that the NTHE people want this outcome to happen, it's just the outcome they think is already unavoidable.

Now, the author's position is both more and less nihilistic. The author also seems to think that human extinction is unavoidable, but he thinks the timeline is much more dragged out. He also seems to think that this is actually the preferable outcome at this point, given that global warming is our own fault, and that the only thing we should do is try to make it so that the planet is as well as it can be after we are finally gone.

[inigyou]

It reads to me as a prediction, not a desire: if we don't prevent NTHE then NTHE will happen.

[strken]

In the context of "I want the human cancer gone from this planet" and the rest of that blog post, I am confident that it's a desire.

Probably a desire for a peaceful fading out of the human species rather than a violent one, but it's still far beyond PR naivety.

[rcMgD2BwE72F]

Human cancer certainly means careless humans.

[birksherty]

It's humans who are doing this to themself and every other species on earth. So it's true.

[ablation]

I wasn't aware I had weaponised their personal faults, or indeed claimed that what they said was indicative of being a personal fault. I read his post, and then read some more of his writing, and simply felt it would be worth posting what I read in this thread. For me at least, it was a useful experience that changed some of what I was reading into the commentary surrounding the data. YMMV.

[vpribish]

Glad you did. It’s just reasonable behavior to me