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by tadfisher 16 days ago
Why would you no longer feel welcome?
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Saw three years worth of my work be classified as "slop" because a few months ago I subscribed to and started using Claude. Had someone describe me as a slop fetishist, as though I was some kind of exhibitionist. Got flagged so much I became the second most flagged user on the site according to their own statistics. Got told to delete my account by the website itself. Got directly told to leave by other users. I think the only reason I didn't is enough people messaged me privately to ask me to stay.

It got to the point I'm sitting on reviewed and tested patches for Mesa that I'm too ashamed to submit because of Claude's participation in their making.

> my work be classified as "slop" because a few months ago I subscribed to and started using Claude

Wait I'm not sure I understand the cause and consequence here if you're saying you use an LLM but your articles aren't slop (note that those are rough synonyms). Do you mention in your submissions you subscribed to or used Claude? The mere existence of the subscription and using it for unrelated things won't be why people flag, I can only assume they notice the quality level and/or style

> you're saying you use an LLM but your articles aren't slop

Not a single word of my articles was written by LLMs. I used them for proofreading and critique.

Writing articles by hand is useful for me since it allows me to crystallize my knowledge. Writing it down for my own future reference essentially prevents me from forgetting in the first place. LLMs accelerated me so much I'm actually trying to slow down so I can let my recent achievements sink in a bit. Writing is how I do that.

> Do you mention in your submissions you subscribed to or used Claude?

I don't use Claude for my articles. I use Claude for code review and design. Implementation is almost a footnote, and even that gets significantly rewritten during my numerous human review passes. I still write code by hand too.

That's for the projects I actually care about. I do have some explicitly vibecoded projects, and I never made a secret out of it. Projects that wouldn't exist at all were it not for LLMs making it easy to execute. I personally review those too, just not as often.

I don't add AI models as co-authors to commits of my own repositories. I'm not in the business of providing free advertising to trillion dollar corporations. If other projects require it, I do so as per their rules.

> The mere existence of the subscription and using it for unrelated things won't be why people flag

It will. They will zero in on things like CLAUDE.md and dismiss your entire project as slop the second they see it.

I know because I asked people directly. Response? If an LLM touched your project, then your project is slop. Verbatim. And that's the polite reply.

Trying to establish some simple criteria for sloppy vs good work nearly got me kicked out. People came at me with literal "I know it when I see it" nonsense. Even Claude does a better job of defining "slop" than that. I find it hilarious how these rules are based on vibes. People just get LLM vibes out of other people's projects, and then dismiss them.

> I can only assume they notice the quality level and/or style

I'm not sure they even saw my project. It's just pure prejudice. AI detected? Slop, no need to even read it. If they actually read my work and thought it sucked, fine. In fact I'd be very interested in knowing why so I can improve. I refuse to accept these predetermined judgements though.

Getting outright called "LLM pusher", "slop fetishist" and "clanker lover" is pretty fun too. It's not the overt racism-tier insults that bother me, it's the fact not a single person seems to have gotten banned over this. One could be forgiven for thinking they opened a 4chan tab.

Thanks for the reply and clarifications. Don't have much to say further besides agreeing with the sentiment
Sounds like the point is getting across to you a little bit.
The prejudice? You bet.
More that people want to deal with the real you.
They always have been. The real me is a person with lots of ideas but not enough executive function to make all of them a reality within my lifetime. ADHD makes it hard to even start tasks, even with medication.

LLMs essentially cured me of this particular problem, to the point I got addicted to building things and had to actively dial it back a bit because it.

As such, I consider LLMs to be assistive technology, like screen readers. LLM opponents are displaying some serious ableism.