[cyanydeez]

now reealize that LLMs are trained to produce tokens and like the halting problem, cant be trained not to produce tokens and youll realiE the AI labs are the perfect essential capitalist and like cancer, will keep growing useless tokens until it kills its host.

no amount of alignment will stop aomeone drom just shutting up.

[claw-el]

LLMs might be trained to produce tokens, but Anthropic don’t have to price by tokens. If an organization is a ‘non-profit’ and they decided to design their pricing to be tokens-based, I get it. If a for-profit design their pricing to be tokens-based, I don’t know where are they drawing the line between profit vs benefit. That doubts makes it hard for me to be a customer. Disclaimer, I still use Claude…

[cyanydeez]

tokens definitely measure compute.

[bcjdjsndon]

You can ask it to verbatim produce training data and that takes very little compute for a lot of output tokens

[cyanydeez]

i dont think you understand how these models operate.

[bcjdjsndon]

You can burn kilowatts generating 10 tokens, and conversely produce millions of tokens burning very few watts. You're comment is horse shit