[socalgal2]

This one does not require any death threats. It's a statement of where the world is going. Maybe you disagree. Come back to this thread in 3 year and see which POV was more correct. The

* "LLMs suck, are stupid, I hate them, and I'm not using them"

or

* "LLMs are the future and if you don't adapt you'll left behind"

I'm confident it's this 2nd option. Care to wager?

People might be using hyperbole: "You'll be left behind" = "you'll be out of a job" or "you'll be unemployable" or "You'll die" but they all mean the same thing.

[overgard]

This whole you need to "adapt" to LLMs thing is bonkers to me, because there's practically no skill in using an LLM. It took me a weekend to learn how to use a coding harness, and the skill pretty much generalizes to all coding harnesses. The things that make me potentially good at using a coding harness are my preexisting engineering skills. I'm sorry, but I think if you believe that being on the cutting edge of knowing how to prompt is some sort of magical skill that's going to protect you from economic hardship, you're delusional.

Most of the "cutting edge" stuff I've seen is basically trying to scale the amount of parallel work that can be done, without any consideration to how much that costs, how much waste is generated, or if the output is even useful. Most of my coding time is spent thinking through problems. Which is exactly how I spent my time prior to LLMs.

[bitwize]

> This whole you need to "adapt" to LLMs thing is bonkers to me, because there's practically no skill in using an LLM.

False. There was a person in this thread complaining about how the LLM forgot to run the build script it itself wrote. Yet people are effectively using LLMs to tackle highly complex, unusual work.

The existence of skill issues implies that skill is needed. This is THE skill that will separate the wheat from the chaff in a software engineering context. There's a reason why Steve Yegge said you're a bad engineer if you're writing code in an editor. It's because you've punted on developing the skillset that will make you vastly more effective.