[sigmar]

>One, this constant bullshit about some window closing, or the perpetual underclass, or falling hopelessly behind. This is negative valence hype, not only is it not true, it’s mostly designed to make you feel bad about yourself and move to shitty San Francisco where everything really does suck like how these people claim.

It's possible to use LLMs without logging onto twitter to be exposed to the people spouting off about a "perpetual underclass." I love the internet, but it really feels like (now more than ever) you have to be intentional about what sites you visit.

[cautiouscat]

Those people are not just on Twitter. They’re here on HN, they’re at work, they’re at your next social gathering.

I’ve found them to be unavoidable to some degree.

[RajT88]

I see a lot of them on Nextdoor and at my city council meetings.

Talking points like: "Data centers are just surveillance centers that are going to use AI to put us into a digital prison!"

Whatever all that means. I assume some of it is about Flock cameras.

[throwup238]

With their doors covered in Ring cameras.

[ToValueFunfetti]

Agreed. There's sort of this spiteful anti-hype here that I find very offputting, and ultimately I think it's because a lot of folks are going out and encountering opinions I never see. I hear wild conspiracy theories about data centers and the financials of involved companies that make their way to me from bluesky or instagram, often through here, but never the unstoppable tide of hype that people are allegedly[1] railing against. I do read Scott Alexander, but he's a lot more reserved than people make him out to be on this.

[1] Allegedly because I have no firsthand experience, not to imply doubt.

[paulryanrogers]

Does Xitter still have people complaining about class divisions?

(Genuinely curious, I hadn't ever seen that there though I don't go there much any more.)

[ToValueFunfetti]

"Permanent underclass" is the notion that people who get involved at the ground floor will essentially get infinite wealth relative to the ones who don't. It's a little goofy, but more of the capitalism you'd expect from today's X than the communism you're imagining in yesterday's Twitter.