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by LPisGood 17 days ago
Putting a broad label of “woke garbage” on simple liberal arts requirements of taking a few classes from “history, philosophy, arts, international studies, or social sciences,” almost does not even justify a response. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you’ve never taken such a class, but I can assure that unless you live in a reality so warped by politics, that basic logic and reason is out the window, classes covering those subjects are serious, thoughtful, and rigorous at accredited US universities.
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Thing is, I have takrn a class like that. Was a political science class. Extreme hard right (chinese dissident, hard anti-left).

I wrote the requisite papers. All of them were F, with no commentary. I brought this to the department chair, and the grades changed to b's and a-'s.

He was absolutely grading on political position for the paper, and not a proper discussion of content per the rubric.

And, aside from going to the chair every time, theres little you can do to fight this sort of obvious bias.

I don't understand how this happened. Surely you picked up enough of the lecturer's views during the lectures and you knew what you had to say to get a good grade. So why didn't you do it?

The way I see it, the humanities classes are there to make sure you learn the non-technical aspects of life well enough to be a functioning member of the adult world. To succeed in life, one of the things you need to be able to do is read the room and decide what to say and what to skip. As a hiring manager, I want to hire people who get it and aren't always bumping heads or causing unnecessary friction.

So in that sense, success in these courses is a good signal for hiring managers.

P.S. You ultimately did succeed in getting that signal, because you got them to change your grade using resourcefulness and persistence. Which are also important soft skills I want as a hiring manager. So overall I would say the system is working just fine.

What you're saying is I should be happy to oblige corruption and sycophancy. Like hell, quite frankly.

This guy was teaching his own pet unsubstantiated 'theories' as a political science class. Anybody who argued or otherwise didn't agree with his garbage was flunked out, or attempted to be flunked.

People like that in areas of power, should hr held to a high standard, or fired from those roles. Same goes for hard-left AND hard-right propaganda. In my case, he was reviewed, and later dismissed. I'm sure I had a hand in his firing.

He was doing a great injustice to political science proper, and to all of his students. By definition, we didn't learn political science.

Frankly, I have never seen such ridiculous things. Having taught students have claimed similar things about professors and seen the exact opposite, I am hesitant to believe you. I have never in my life seen a professor unwilling to explain a grade or give helpful feedback, especially on an essay.

It sounds like you had a professor committing malpractice on the verge of being fired.

Friend told me that teacher followed neutral curriculum, but every five 5 minutes there was smugly inside joke about "rape culture" or "white man bad". Kind of like bad standup performance.

Try to bring up something factually correct like: cristian culture in 19th century UK abolished slavery worldwide, and you would get harassed and kicked out of school!

And you do not have to take my word on that, they proudly announce their values on website!

> Try to bring up something factually correct like: cristian culture in 19th century UK abolished slavery worldwide

Correction:

> cristian culture in 19th century UK

(mostly) got rid of (its own sector of) the worldwide slavery system created by... Christian culture in 15th century what-is-now UK, among other predominantly Christian countries.

> Try to bring up something factually correct like: cristian culture in 19th century UK abolished slavery worldwide, and you would get harassed and kicked out of school!

These are the sorts of things that are easy to say but just completely don’t hold water in any serious university setting. If you made this argument in a paper and properly cited sources and formed reasonable arguments based on the historical record I’m quite certain any historian, even a woke leftist atheist one, would happily give good marks.