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by jgalt212 16 days ago
The more Terry talks about AI, the more I'm starting to feel like Terry may have some undisclosed conflicts of interest.

https://www.reddit.com/r/mathematics/comments/1tryyw7/terenc...

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When it comes to coding, non-programmers do not have to be in a defensive position worried that their job is under risk, instead they just see a great tool that saves them time, especially doing boring coding like dashboards, visualizations, interactive web-pages, or doing experiments that they otherwise would not have time for.
Mathematicians are a kind of programmers, the original ones.
Why are mathematicians a kind of programmers? Besides applied maths, aren't they more researchers that explore and discover, in contrast to the majority of programmers who are more like handymen?
Metamathematics, by Kleene, is programming in maths. Theoretical computer science is maths. A lot of foundations work is programming. Coding itself is like an extended problem set from a maths class. LaTeX itself is programming.

The difference to me is one of directionality - maths research is seeing a far off island and getting there by hook or by crook; bridge, draining the swamp, inventing an airplane or boat, whatever it takes. Software engineering is like covering a plain with tiles - every feature is ultimately filled in and the underlying beauty is obscured by a fractal of complexity required by the ever growing requirements.

> Metamathematics, by Kleene, is programming in maths.

Ookay.

Back in the day i was confused by 'Linear programming', which is optimisation and has nothing to do with coding.

> every feature is ultimately filled in and the underlying beauty is obscured by a fractal of complexity required by the ever growing requirements.

Right. I would say Mathematics tries to unobscure (patterns in) nature. Engineering is creating tools, sometimes leveraging natural patterns. But yeah, Fourier or Laplace definitely created tools, too.

Disagree. Programming is about sequences (behavior, state, data, etc), math is about relations.
"When it comes to a field I'm not an expert in, AI is a great tool."

Every time.

Tao is not an expert in math research? That's a really high bar then.
Yes, because AI gets the "shape" of something right. If you don't know the field you don't notice the pockmarked surface.
I think the opposite is true.
So does anyone familiar with the Gell-Mann amnesia effect.
Or he just finds it an incredible time-saving tool to help him do more maths.
The well-known shadowy bias and conflict of interest of "I just enjoy experimenting with this new thing".