[black_puppydog]

> price CO2 emissions at the actual cost of sucking the thing back out if the atmosphere

This is the only relevant bit actually. The rest will follow from there. And in principle, at least in Europe, we already have some mechanisms to do this. We'd "just" have to up the prices.

BUT of course with the right wing on the advance, and with them having identified basic physics (i.e. climate change) as a culture war terrain, this keeps being watered down... Oh well... This is why we can't have nice things... like a future...

[Aerroon]

We've been paying hefty excise taxes on gasoline in Europe for decades. Yet nothing has changed. Environmentalists still have the exact same demands and supposedly nothing positive has come from this. It has just made everything more expensive. So what's the point?

[Muromec]

>Yet nothing has changed.

Actually a lot has changed -- the world passed peak oil and the benzine cars are practically done, while a lot of generation is now "green". It isn't enough to get it to C02 negative territory so far, but saying it's nothing is a bit counterfactual.

If you want to burn shit, you need to either not release CO2 somehow while doing it or suck it back from the the air somewhere and that second part isn't happening, because the emissions are mispriced.

[Aerroon]

That's true, but it didn't really happen because of these excise taxes though. Tesla didn't come from Europe as a response to high gasoline prices.

[59percentmore]

*raise the prices