[AnthonyMouse]

This is actually making the case for why agencies like the CFPB are a bad way to go about this. If that was a class action lawsuit instead, the plaintiff's lawyers aren't going to drop the case just because there was a change of administrations.

[BrenBarn]

It's more a case for why the US system of government is a failure.

[AnthonyMouse]

Which system of government is capable of operating at the scale of the US without going sideways? It's not the EU, look at what just happened with Chat Control.

Maybe the problem is attempting to regulate at that scale to begin with.

[janalsncm]

Chat control is not relevant to consumer protection, which is what the article is about.

Of course, Americans also have much worse privacy rights than Europeans do, Chat Control notwithstanding. GDPR gives Europeans the right to delete their personal data. In the US, data brokers routinely launder highly personal information about Americans and nothing is done. Good luck figuring out how to delete that.

[AnthonyMouse]

> Chat control is not relevant to consumer protection

It's relevant to demonstrating a failed government, however.

> Of course, Americans also have much worse privacy rights than Europeans do, Chat Control notwithstanding.

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

> Europeans the right to delete their personal data. In the US, data brokers routinely launder highly personal information about Americans and nothing is done. Good luck figuring out how to delete that.

Good luck figuring out how to delete it from the databases of foreign companies even if you're in Europe. You think companies in China are complying with any of that when you have no way to prove whether they are or not?

That's why the only thing that works is ensuring they don't have your data to begin with, i.e. E2EE. Trying to regulate what they do with it once the cat is is out of the bag is too late.

[BrenBarn]

> Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

I think this is pretty grossly overstating things. Yes, chat control is bad, but there's little doubt in my mind that EU regulations overall have been better for consumers than the situation in the US.

[1over137]

Perhaps it’s not the system, perhaps it’s the electorate.

[janalsncm]

The US government is not a failure. It simply does not care about consumers. Those are two different things.