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you may be fine with these companies using your data and selling it back to you but you're also saying its not okay for others to not want to participate. basically people that actually create something of value should be forced to give up that value (not counting your shitty public repo that you call "OSS"). you don't even think they should pay a fair value to train on it, as long as you get create your shitty vibe coded slop, you don't care.

[CamperBob2]

Correct, I don't care. The data they are "selling back to me" has been transformed and amplified beyond recognition in 99.999% of cases.

Copyright is not a natural right. It's something we pulled out of our asses a few hundred years ago to make a few people rich. It can go right back where it came from, if it's going to impede progress for the rest. Don't fight AI, fight for access to it.

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asking these trillion dollar companies to pay a tiny portion of their valuation for the data they're using to profit is not "fighting AI".

with your copyright vision do you think your favorite writers or artists would be putting blood sweat and tears into their work if the publisher just steals it and sells it without giving them a dime?

[CamperBob2]

Yes, why wouldn't they? Except for plaintiffs' attorneys, no one will ever ask an LLM to regurgitate today's New York Times or the latest Harry Potter book.

I might someday ask an LLM for the next Harry Potter book, though. That will be where things get interesting, but that's not what's under discussion here.