[dimgl]

Grok Build has had impressive performance in a couple of my projects. And fast. So this revelation has been very disappointing...

I will say, a majority of the code I'm writing now is fully through an online LLM. If a company wanted to reconstruct a project I'm working on, they could just replay all of the tool calls from their logs, if they decide to retain the data (I did this locally once to recover a project that I mistakenly clobbered in Git).

Still, this is a big overstep IMO. At the very least, they should make it clear in their terms of service and privacy policy, and not hidden through legalese. Not all usage of Grok Build will be through their enterprise plan which offers ZDR.

[swat535]

Grok Build has been useless for me personally. Claude is the only one that works best.

I find Deepseek to be a great compromise between cost and performance. Anthropic and OpenAI are simply too expensive at this point.

[trollbridge]

I don’t know why anyone would use Grok Build when they could use Cursor, with access to both Grok-4.5 and Composer-2.5-Fast and astonishingly cheap prices, and easy access to Opus if you need it.

[dools]

Deepseek is phenomenal. It needs more baby sitting but it’s just so goddamn cheap.

[rvz]

But you also have handed over your secrets, dotfiles and API keys alongside with your source code to xAI.

I'm afraid you have been scammed.

[dimgl]

A bit hyperbolic, no? A majority of code is now written through Claude and similar services.

[Catloafdev]

How is it hyperbolic when it's literally the subject of the post? Did you not read the OP?

[dimgl]

The "scam" part is the hyperbolic part

[hansvm]

If I buy one thing and get a worse alternative, I usually call that a scam. $30k for a car, and it feels the need to summarize my location patterns and sell that to adtech agencies without bothering to even notify me? That's a scam. $X for a code generation tool, and it feels the need to ship all my passwords and other sensitive information to a known user-hostile entity? Also a scam. The fact that I can ~clip the antenna~ sandbox the malicious code doesn't make it not a scam; it might be a practical stopgap, but the offenders still basically got away with it.

[dools]

$3b for a splashdown in the ocean instead of a lunar landing of a lunar lander?