[anuramat]

> it's not actually a financially efficient way ... unless you profit from creating demand for LLMs

well, they do? it's a win-win, you can't really criticise an AI lab for doing AI instead of straight up giving money to security researchers

> If you factor in all the money spent on training

why would I? it's not a cybersec-specific model

[dTal]

>you can't really criticise an AI lab for doing AI instead of straight up giving money to security researchers

Sure I can, if they - or you - pretend "the entire point" is about useful security work rather than expensive loss-leading marketing and demand creation.

We shouldn't look at this and think "wow AI is super useful for security". We should look and this and think "wow, there's a LOT of capital going into persuading us that AI is super useful for security".

THAT is "the entire point".

[anuramat]

security researchers are using the free tokens that they get to do useful security work, AI labs are giving away free tokens to maximize their profits; is it really that hard to imagine that different parties might have different goals?

> We shouldn't look at this and think

you're gonna tell me what to think now?