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Apple sues OpenAI, accusing it of stealing company secrets (nytimes.com)
113 points by jbegley 21 days ago
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Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade secrets - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48865019 - July 2026 (18 comments)

That's incredibly audacious. Truly unbelievable. OpenAI won't be able to get away with it in the courts.
Can't stand NYT ever since they subpoenaed for millions of chat logs from OpenAI, trashing user privacy for their own goals on a massive scale.
What user privacy? There would be no chat logs to subpoena if users had privacy.
The NYT doesn't get to see the logs. They will only be seen by the attorneys handling the lawsuit and possibly expert witnesses they hire, who all are under strong NDAs.
What were their "own goals", exactly? Why did you ever assume your chat logs were private on OpenAI?
So you're okay with a data hoarding company building AGI having your data but not some journalists having <1% of it?
...Yeah?
why are you okay with the former
Because I'm impressed as hell with what the labs have done with the data they have, and I really couldn't care less how they got it.

I've already contributed to their training set inadvertently by publishing open-source software and documentation over the years, and as long as they keep delivering the bang-for-the-buck that I'm seeing now with Fable and Sol, they are welcome to keep doing what they've been doing. More power to them.

Corporate news media defending copyright maximalism with their dying breath, on the other hand... not so much. Continued progress in AI (and my continued access to it) is far more important than copyright law.

you may be fine with these companies using your data and selling it back to you but you're also saying its not okay for others to not want to participate. basically people that actually create something of value should be forced to give up that value (not counting your shitty public repo that you call "OSS"). you don't even think they should pay a fair value to train on it, as long as you get create your shitty vibe coded slop, you don't care.