[danorama]

So let me get this straight:

1) If you have the Codex desktop app installed, and you update from within the app, it replaces itself with the new chat-demoted-to-an-overlay app called "ChatGPT" and renames your existing ChatGPT app to "ChatGPT Classic."

2) If you get the new ChatGPT app and replace your current app with it, you don't get a "Classic" app and there's no way to download it.

3) They really named an app "Classic." Naming your app Classic is putting a bright red sign on it that says "this app will be abandoned soon." They might as well have called it "ChatGPT Sunset."

If this is all true, that is certainly...one way to do product management.

[darepublic]

I guess the smarter ai gets the dumber we have to be to compensate

[unleashhale]

Nobody in product development saw the need to leave behind a "Classic" version as a clue that this new bloated abomination is subpar?

[senectus1]

the dmg for chatgpt used to have the bundleID of com.openai.chatgpt, now the ChatGPT bundlID is com.openai.codex.

the website for downloading the new chatGPT ( https://learn.chatgpt.com/docs/app ) has a big download button in the middle of the page that links to "https://persistent.oaistatic.com/codex-app-prod/Codex.dmg"

wtaf OpenAI... pick a freaking lane! what did you vibe code this ?

[couchdb_ouchdb]

Chat is there... it's just can't be in a full-screen anymore.

[gitgud]

Not allowing full screen is the most insane thing for a “chat app ported from the web”… the browser probably has a better experience now…

[Razengan]

The best way to access ChatGPT "chat" was always on ChatGPT.com via a web browser, not even the iOS app seems to have all the little things you can do on the web version.

The Mac desktop ChatGPT app had weird issues like not being able to see the model being used by a chat inside a project etc. I just ended up installing ChatGPT Atlas and using that as an AI-only browser for all LLMs including Claude and Grok lol

[8n4vidtmkvmk]

Always was better IMO. I just pinned the browser app as a desktop app and have been using it that way for many months. Works great.

[jostylr]

You can detach a specific chat window and make it any size you want.

[ChrisMarshallNY]

Sounds kind of ominous.

I was just about to pull the trigger, and upgrade my sub, but maybe I'm better off, moving over to Claude, even though it means rebuilding my history.

[wilg]

Presumably there are some features in the old app that will be migrated to the new app or dropped. Seems fine.

[exolymph]

Lol, this has Google energy.

[airstrafer]

when the middle management ghouls demand that the codex and chat teams synergize at the expense of the architecture and users. lol

[Razengan]

I've been wary since they killed Sora