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the goal of the war in iran is to produce a regime change that will prevent them from having nukes targeting israel

islamic iran with nukes makes israel untennable and the us puppets in the gulf too

the us will be forced to physically invade now that the first strike failed

the us in its current form will not tolerate an existential threat to israel

[selimthegrim]

Pakistan has nukes and I don't see the Gulf/Levant quaking in their boots

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It has no way to deliver them to Israel, and it is in itself a US vassal

[pphysch]

> the us in its current form will not tolerate an existential threat to israel

It seems to be tolerating Netanyahu and Ben-Gvir just fine!

Imagine the different place Israel would be if it pursued Oct 7 as a criminal act instead of a pretext to commit genocide. Enormous strategic blunder by the Netanyahu regime. Israel would not be a global pariah state and it's entirely possible that regime change in Iran would have succeeded. But you are never going to regime change a people who know with certainty that they will be butchered/raped/tortured by their supposed "saviors" the Israelis. There is literally nothing worse than surrendering to Israel.

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the prevalence of secular jews in the state department makes them completely unable to read islamic countries. it's the third time this happens in a decade

by punching islamic regimes you create a feedback loop of islamic eschatology

the only way out now is forward ie boots on the ground. this is gonna happen whether dems or reps are in power

[actionfromafar]

The feedback loop of islamic eschatology is matched by the same in the Christian Right, so I think it's on purpose.

[selimthegrim]

I seem to remember a onetime secular Jew named Leopold Weiss did a pretty good job.

[37374848]

Indeed, and this breed of arabist has been relentlessly pushed out of the department since the 1960s which is why we are in the mess we are in

there's a devilish mess of evangelical wasps secular jews actual jews irishmen and not a single person who has read more than two lines about islam let alone convert into it

islam has been treated like communism or socialism ie somthkng you can root out in exchange for walmart and free stuff. thats not it. muslims are willing to die for it and they will prove it again and again, and no amount of conventional weaponry will bring afghanistan or iran to its heels for long

[selimthegrim]

Uh he was a little more than an Arabist but point taken