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by u8080 23 days ago
>CSAM detection systems

Blackboxes which scan your messages and photos for anything 3rd party want with undisclosed criteria.
2 comments
ben_w 23 days ago
Yes, indeed.

In principle "for anything 3rd party want" would be illegal in the EU. However, Big Tech clearly doesn't care what's illegal in the EU.

Pertinent to this case: https://stateofsurveillance.org/news/big-tech-defies-eu-law-...

Previously: https://www.edpb.europa.eu/news/french-sa-cookies-and-advert...

Even earlier, when they cared about the law: https://www.trtworld.com/article/13092354

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flumpcakes 22 days ago
> Blackboxes which scan your messages and photos for anything 3rd party want with undisclosed criteria.

Well the criteria is CSAM?

Do you have any evidence that these systems have been used to imprison someone that wasn't CSAM related?

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u8080 22 days ago
>Well the criteria is CSAM

Could you confirm that in any way?

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ben_w 22 days ago
A better question is if the government can.

Given that big tech firms keep getting fined for doing stuff like this ("anything 3rd party want with undisclosed criteria"), clearly the answer is "yes, eventually".

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u8080 22 days ago
No, this is not better question - govts were multiple times caught by hand in cooperating with private companies for surveillance or just breaking the law without any consequences(i.e. germany MITMing jabber.ru hetzner nodes)
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