[skydhash]

The “clankers” won’t take over, but have you also noticed that most people are talking about their workflows/process instead of their results/outcomes? It’s all about “Is the train still running?” than “Are we getting close to the destination?”.

[rapind]

That's true and interesting. Personally I've been rebuilding an application in Rust, learning Rust at the same time and leaning heavily on AI agents for both the building, but also the learning. I've been at it for a few months now (large application) and should be done pretty soon. I'm fairly comfortable with ML languages, and Rust has felt pretty good.

It's been an experiment to see how much more performance I can squeeze from a Rust version (spoiler: it's a lot), how well the agents code in Rust (pretty great and seems idiomatic AFAICT), and if this is a good way to learn a new language (I'm learning, but the verdict on how efficient is still out).

I might be self deluding, but I do think it's been productive, even though I'm intentionally moving slow with small TDD vibe spikes followed by completely reading over everything, adding more guard rails if necessary, refining requirements and tests, sometimes ripping it out then and have the agent rewrite it more iteratively with meticulous reviews, etc. Honestly, I have the time to do this right, so I've been focused on correctness and making it enjoyable to avoid burn out... but what I find enjoyable, won't be the same thing others find enjoyable. I also have the autonomy and financial security to adopt entirely new workflows and do rewrites of my own products, which not everyone has. I would absolutely hate being forced to token max or w/e that insane BS is all about.