[Lomlioto]

We can discuss if the richest country in the world, polluting the planet the most, should invest a little bit of money into global aid.

But discontinuing something like this without a ramp-down phase is just sick.

I also don't get your rant about Biden/Harris etc. i talke about what Elon Musk does and did.

Btw. He did 2 nazi salutes, nazis put humans into chambers and killed them on mass.

[urbsgpw]

Well u can see other people from the democratic party doing similar salutes and the press reported it differently.

As to the first point: maybe it should. But look at how the aid actually works, what it funds (it was not politically neutral - btw nothing in the realm of society is) etc. I mean, not just USAID, a lot of these schemes are at the expense of people who pay the most taxes, to fund corporations that send aid to countries that otherwise wouldn't have been able to afford the commodities at the market price. Surely you can see that as a taxpayer you might support the dismantling of these orgs?

Now, I do agree that the ramp-down could have been 1-2 years and that the theatre around it shows the worst of Elon. And the current administration.

[Lomlioto]

Again you are throwing around whataboutism. Im not protecting anyones shitty behavour it doesn't matter to me if its rep or dem.

I for myself, i think paying taxes is critical. I believe i was quite lucky with my upbringing. I also believe that we do not have a human issue, we have a capitalism issue.

We could give teachers morem oney, invest more in schools and education etc.

But this has nothing to do with Elon Musk.

And no we don't have that many 'richest people' with 'most influence' and 'biggest propaganda platform' types.

Jeff Bezos (washington post) is one of them, Murdoch family (Fox), Zuckerberg (Facebook), Ellisons (mtv etc.)

[urbsgpw]

I agree, it was whataboutism. And i completely agree with the rest of your statement as well. My point was just that Elon gets more flak here than the rest of them (And it's his fault for going into politics, to be sure) and that this is due to the general ideological leaning of HN being to the dems side. That's all. Which is also completely valid and to some degree expected - but irksome whenever there is a Tesla/SpaceX topic.

As for the rest, especially in the US (im from the EU), we should invest in everything you mentioned and I wouldnt mind taxing Elon and his gang more either.

[wyre]

It’s not due to HN being on one side ideologically. Elon’s criticism is due to him being one of the most powerful people in the world. He deserves any and all criticism he gets, solely due to the position he is in. I think describing him as “going into politics” is a misnomer. Someone running for office is going into politics, meanwhile Musk proverbially bribed the guards, walked into the statehouse, took a sledgehammer to its walls, then walked out.

[urbsgpw]

While a valid point, I don't buy HN doesn't have a non-neutral ideological preference.

I completely agree his foray was a fiasco (and his shareholders paid for it) and your colourful portrayal is more accurate than my shorthand, but I would argue that the comments would have been fewer (on this portal, maybe not on foxnews.com) if he had done the same thing in the Biden admin.

[wyre]

Maybe? But I also don't think the situation would have even happened under the Biden admin.

[Lomlioto]

Grok is Elon Musks product.

He gets flag on HN from me because he is constantly on HN.

Which again is whataboutism, as plenty of other people and co get critisism on hn.

Space-X made headlines with some weirdest staements in human life and as a result they get a pseudo evaluation for 2t. This gives him even more power and influence.