[throwaway_10948]

yes elon has gone crazy; yes trump is a convicted felon; mention it, and move on, fixating on these is not the way to actually defeat elon or trump as shown by the recent elections. there are better things to do to weaken elon and trump's cause

[calgoo]

Yes, like not buying or using their products, their political supporters products and telling others to do the same. This has been proven over and over again to work. Thats why, dont use Grok, dont buy a Tesla, dont support the mega corps that have bent a knee to them, dont buy Java licenses use open source, etc etc etc.

[throwaway_10948]

> Thats why, dont use Grok, dont buy a Tesla, dont support the mega corps that have bent a knee to them

sure. i refused to buy a tesla. at some point of my work it became impractical to not use grok. i think the message i want to get through is, there are so many ways to devalue elon, using grok or not does not matter that much if someone offsets it. it is the easiest thing to do but it is not necessarily the most effective

[mlrtime]

Go on, enumerate the entire list that has 1st, 2nd degrees to all the things you don't like.

[calgoo]

Thats not the point, pick your battles, effect what you can. Of course you can not block everything, as all corporations have "bent" knee to some degree. But start with the ones that you can make a call about, like Grok, and try to influence as many as possible not to use it. The same for Oracle, the same for Google and others. Thats the way we can actually make a change, the only way to get to these people is their value. If we de-value their brands, then we de-value them.