non-tech founder + choosing between buying ClaudeCode or CodeX

[virtuallymundo]

Hey, so i'm primarily looking to test out app concepts, seeing how the ui design could look at front-end. Play around with features and ux type of mechanisms.

What's exactly the main differences or similarities or pros\cons with each of these 2 options 'just 'having fun' 'testing code' 'using the app locally by myself without shipping it'

[theperfectsol]

For someone with a non-technical background who wants to have fun and ship MVPs quickly:

Codex if your priority is fast iteration, building from scratch, and staying in a conversational workflow.

Claude Code if you expect to spend a lot of time improving, extending, or maintaining larger projects.

If you eventually build products with thousands of lines of code, you'll likely find value in using both depending on the task.

[virtuallymundo]

cool, I read up on it a bit, seems cc is more so for working on well thought-out projects. would codex be able to ship apps to be used by my friends? and what about cursor having the option to switch btwn all of the ai llm's?

[atmosx]

None that should matter to you. Maybe you should start with something cheaper instead of SOTA e.g. Deepseek, Mistral, etc. They're not as good but not as bad as some say either. These cheaper LLMs will allow you to experiment much more until you get some sort of workflow on using LLMs and the switch to the expensive ones.

[virtuallymundo]

thanks Mistral's multiple products sections actually look good, lot can be done there (first time hearing of it given all the media given to american ai companies), any more like this? I try to stay away from chinese models, don't really know why but yeah

[leros]

If you're non-technical and just wanting to play around with UI, I highly suggest you explore Claude Design. It's programming under the hood to make prototypes, but the coding is 100% hidden away from you. It can help you explore design ideas pretty quickly.

[virtuallymundo]

I lean more towards claude for this exact reason, yet I've heard it runs through tokens like hell on the $20 (could i ask him to add specific features without problems? ) Is codex ui trash or pretty calm ( I have 2->5 app concepts i'm working on rn )

[leros]

I'll tell you I upgraded from the $20 Claude plan to the $100 plan after I started using Claude Design. I was routinely spending $10-20 of extra usage per day. The $20 plan was enough for my coding alone.

[scrappy_guy]

You could also try Figma Make. Pretty good at making app concepts that are well designed, and you can try it out on a free plan.

[virtuallymundo]

will see what's up with it. also want to get some code testing in the project as practice

[ra0x3]

A bit of meta: Claude Design -> Claude Code or Codex.

IMO Claude Code almost feels like a hack for getting web-ish products off the ground. It does such a great job of making the UI mockups interactive and providing a great "base" that the agents can use. Once you get that "base" the way you want in Claude Design, export it, then literally just tell your agent "Hey, the exported design project is /at/this/path - read it and implement it". No it's seriously been that simple - either agent can handle it. From there, you can A/B test to see which agent you prefer. The better agent is going to depend on your project and your prompting.

Good luck :)

[virtuallymundo]

nice. I just got a free monthly gift from gpt, codex for now. looks like people also like visuals nowadays and go for the claude vibe, which honestly makes for better optimizing and iterating fast I think. getting a plan to also see how it feels working with agents, just imagining how tech will improve by next year. thanks good luck !