[settled]

I used SWE-1.5 and 1.6 when it was Windsurf (before Devin Desktop), it's not that bad (grunt work, tests, can actually plan and implement some medium level stuff) but you get a much much better value and better models (GPT-5.4^) going with a Codex subscription (plus you get resets).

That company truly subsidized its user base to the extreme before, the $15/mo subscription was the best value on Earth paired with weekly deals reducing credits for premium models. Now it's barely any messages for paid models, completely watered down.

[chris_st]

FWIW, Cognition has all the Sonnet/Opus/Fable models, and all the GPT ones, as well as GLM, Kimi, and Gemini.

[anentropic]

It's not very clear on the website, couldn't find a list of models or quota/pricing per model anywhere

[RussianCow]

But they don't appear to subsidize them to the same degree. I've only been using Devin for less than a month, but I've been hitting the limits of the $20/month plan way more quickly than I'd expect, and definitely more quickly than with Claude Code or Codex.

So far, Cursor provides the best value for their subscription, but I have to imagine they're basically lighting money on fire. There's no way their current pricing is sustainable.